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The Real Cost (and Value) of Outsourcing
There’s a common misconception about outsourcing: that agencies charge double what employees get.
Looks like a nice business model, doesn’t it?
Here’s what most business owners don’t see.
Before a single interview happens, a good agency has already spent hours on these five things:
1️⃣ Understanding the company, its values, its workflow, its pain points.
2️⃣ Writing and rewriting the job description so it actually reflects what’s needed, not just what sounds good.
3️⃣ Filtering hundreds of applications, spotting who’s real and who’s copy-pasted their resume with AI.
4️⃣ Vetting for skills and mindset, because the wrong attitude costs more than the wrong tool.
5️⃣ Mapping cultural fit: who will thrive with your leadership style, your pace, your expectations.By the time a small business owner finally meets a candidate, the real work has already been done, even if they never saw it.
The value isn’t in “finding someone.”
The value is in hiring with a level of quality most small companies struggle to reach, simply because they don’t hire often enough to build these systems themselves.Good outsourcing doesn’t cost you more. It saves you from paying for the same mistake twice.
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The Art (and Science) of Hiring in 2025
Over the past 24 years, I’ve read thousands of resumes, interviewed hundreds of people, and hired across multiple companies. I thought I had a ton of experience — until I met Cecilia and Victoria. I’m in awe.
Why? Because Cecilia and Victoria are true experts at sourcing new team members. The other day, I did a quick calculation: between them, it’s easily over 40,000 interviews throughout their careers. That’s an incredible amount of experience.
And I’m not saying this because they are part of my team, but because I’ve seen firsthand how much hiring has changed over the past 24 months — more than it did in the previous 24 years. Hiring hasn’t gotten easier. Quite the opposite.
I think this is one of the biggest challenges small companies face today: finding the right people in a sea of opportunities. Getting hiring right determines the success of any business. Get it right, and the business grows. Get it wrong, and it stagnates.
Here are three timeless techniques Cecilia and Victoria use when interviewing candidates after scanning thousands of applications:
1. Details that hurt
Anyone can talk about wins. The real test is whether they can tell the story behind them in vivid detail — what really happened, who was involved, and what the friction was. They even ask small things like what the weather was like during a specific event to test authenticity.2. Process over polish
They ask candidates to walk through how they did something, step by step. Real experience is a little messy. Made-up experience sounds like bullet points. They look for the small missteps and corrections that prove genuine experience.3. The pause
Real memory makes people stop and think. Over-rehearsed answers don’t. When on a video interview, do the eyes move slightly as they recall, or do they stay fixed? That’s a subtle but powerful signal.These are fundamentals in a hiring process that has only gotten more complex in recent months. But they remain the foundation — even in a world of a thousand resumes and AI-polished applications.
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Episode 6 – Starting your own business
Listen to Rosemary talk about her experience starting her company Gorilla Stationers and what helped her to keep the track until where she is now.
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