I cried the first time I had to fire someone. I felt it was my fault. As a founder, I’ve always believed we don’t just hire people, we invite them into our vision. We hope they’ll care as much as we do. And when they don’t, or when it doesn’t work, it feels like a personal failure.
For a long time, I kept people too long because I wanted to avoid admitting that failure. Instead, I twisted myself trying to make things work that clearly weren’t. I thought being a “good leader” meant being endlessly patient.
It took me years to understand that being a good leader actually means telling the truth kindly, clearly, and as soon as things become clear.
That’s why I believe most of us don’t burn out from overworking. We burn out from emotional entanglement, from holding the entire relationship on our shoulders, without anyone saying, “Hey, this isn’t working and here’s why.”
It took me years to learn that leadership isn’t about hardening your heart. It’s about keeping it open and acting anyway.
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The Real Cost (and Value) of Outsourcing
There’s a common misconception about outsourcing: that agencies charge double what employees get.
Looks like a nice business model, doesn’t it?
Here’s what most business owners don’t see.
Before a single interview happens, a good agency has already spent hours on these five things:
1️⃣ Understanding the company, its values, its workflow, its pain points.
2️⃣ Writing and rewriting the job description so it actually reflects what’s needed, not just what sounds good.
3️⃣ Filtering hundreds of applications, spotting who’s real and who’s copy-pasted their resume with AI.
4️⃣ Vetting for skills and mindset, because the wrong attitude costs more than the wrong tool.
5️⃣ Mapping cultural fit: who will thrive with your leadership style, your pace, your expectations.By the time a small business owner finally meets a candidate, the real work has already been done, even if they never saw it.
The value isn’t in “finding someone.”
The value is in hiring with a level of quality most small companies struggle to reach, simply because they don’t hire often enough to build these systems themselves.Good outsourcing doesn’t cost you more. It saves you from paying for the same mistake twice.
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The Hiring Conversation: Building Teams with Heart
Some ideas arrive fully formed.
But others take years to find their place. For me, building companies has always been more than just building products or services. It’s about the people:The ones we hire,
The ones we grow with, and sometimes
The ones we have to let go.
Over the years, I’ve come to embrace that people component more and more. Leadership without people at heart is nothing. That’s why I’m bringing back The Rosemary Czopek Podcast with a new season called ‘The Hiring Conversation’. I want this to be a place for candid, open talks with (women) founders about what it really takes to build great teams from people:How do they hire?
How do they lead?And how do they build teams that last?
We’ll talk about what worked, and most importantly, what didn’t. Because it’s the failures that teach us the most. Learning from those who’ve been there and are willing to share their experiences has always been the most effective for me. And that’s what I want this new season to be:
A place for mutual learning.
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